Spirited

Nice. I remember when Windows Blinds used to be a thing and everyone had a customized Windows XP desktop to make it look like glass. Lol

I'm not super knowledgeable when it comes to client stuff, nor have I tried doing rotations in Conquer Online (so super out of my element), but isn't a tile in Conquer Online 16 pixels tall and 32 pixels across?

So, if we say Konichu is chasing you, then this can happen when you spawn Konichu outside of your client's screen distance with MsgPlayer. That could be a race condition where Konichu's spawn is sent to your client before it's received a response from your own jump (the client isn't updated, but the screen on the game server is). It can also happen if you're simply trying to spawn a player outside of screen distance (but I'm guessing you've triple checked those by now). For the race condition issue, I'd recommend looking at how you're processing movement overall and how you're sending responses. Movement should generally be single-threaded per map / map bubble (most actions should be in my opinion), and the next movement shouldn't be processed until the messages for the spawns and movement response are in queue to be sent back to the client. Since messages queued and encrypted are in order, that'll ensure that the spawns and movement response messages are processed first before any follow up movements based on that server state. Make sure you have MsgAction type 102 (or whatever QUERY_PLAYER is) implemented on your server, too. That'll at least let you heal when these occurrences happen (if you can't fix it right now). Best of luck with this.

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Welcome to the board, and thanks for posting feedback here. Yeah, I think my stance on AI has gotten more closed / strict. I'm mostly against how the AI models are trained using the hard work of creatives across the internet without permission or compensation. Until that improves, then my stance doesn't change. But I do hope that this leads to more evolution in the private server space. Like people considering voice acting for some crucial NPCs. Or different applications of machine learning. That'd be cool. It's nice to see servers like this one experimenting a bit.

Also, I wanted to talk a little about my plans once we get the license... I'd like to make Cooldown more game preservation focused: Conquer Online, Era of Faith, and other TQ games would be under a new "Game Preservation" section. We'd still have our independent section for Indie development, but that'd be a secondary focus. A Downloads plugin with IPS will let us host mods for Conquer Online and other games, and let it all be easily browsable. Clubs would allow groups of developers to share code and more using their own private forums. Blogs would let members write about their project development / showcase their work. Eventually, I'd like to add a plugin for showing private servers that are online, what their online status is, and how many discord members their discord has. On top of that, having a more modern forum and theme would be very nice additions to the usability and management of the forums. I can't do this alone though, so if you have the ability to donate, I would greatly appreciate that. Using non-pirated software is a must for this type of forum and the longevity of it, and I want to continue doing this forum and its members right. Thanks for reading.

Just so I understand, is the effect completely client sided? Or are you sending a packet / message from the server to display this when they spawn in? Is it a status on the character, or an effect you manually send?

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Just for context, is this an effect you're importing from a higher version of the client? And which message / packet are you using to send this right now? There're a few message types for sending effects, so it could be we just need to switch out the message type you're using.

Well, there's a thread for that too. Hehe

when I read this "There're a lot of ways custom dialogs can be made". Do you know one way on how to do it or place where I can start learning it? I'm not really someone who can best answer that. I've seen ImGUI used a lot recently... and that's probably the approach I would take.

Thanks! Is there a thread post somewhere related to steps to do when upgrading a source? I am thinking, if you're updating a client, there has to be changed in the source as well. Yeah, a lot can change depending on the patches you're trying to upgrade a source between. I wouldn't imagine there'd be any guides since sources are all different and patches are all different. Which patches are you going between?

Yeah, I have a full mirror of patches here:

Hmm, I'm not sure if you're going to find anyone supporting Paradise Conquer based servers. It's not a clean source people want to support. Did the project include the launcher's source code? If it did, then I'd try looking through that and see if there're any examples you can learn from. Otherwise, your guess is as good as mine. There're a lot of ways custom dialogs can be made, and if you want to use the existing custom dialogs system in your server project, then you'll have to do some more research on your own. Maybe there's someone out there who can help, but idk anyone personally.

Artificial intelligence isn't a replacement for real intelligence and talent. It can only do so much using guesses at what problems are solved by Stack Overflow. It's no more helpful than Googling, and may be worse since it only gives you a single opinion without source references. I strongly advise against the use of AI in Conquer Online server development. It has no idea what Conquer's internal data structures or messages are, nor the contents and meaning of your own source / this project. A "prompt engineer" is not an actual engineer. With that said, a reminder to the community when working with these LUA scripts: they are from a binary leak from TQ, and distributing them is not allowed here. You're welcome to talk about them here, just don't distribute them. Thanks!

Hm, weird. You don't get a MsgConnect on the game server side, but you get the connect event? What language is the client you're using?

I don't really have a comment about this.

I mean, I'm personally in favor of making things more accessible rather than obfuscated. There's no stopping scammers in any private server community; Conquer Online isn't an exception to that. But making things more accessible also means an easier entry point for those who aren't as well versed in C#. On that note though, just due to the complexity of Conquer Online and the state of projects as a whole, there's really no getting around needing to know C# right now. Saying that's a requirement is sorta gonna get you a "well, duh" response from most people. Maybe that can change sometime in the future (like Comet was going to be dockerized with a dashboard / installation web project for setting it up easily), but that's just the state of things for now.

I'm actually really happy seeing this project. Not a lot of projects get forked and improved in the Conquer Online community while also remaining open-source and active. This is one of the only examples I've seen. It's really cool to see Dragon also getting used for the launcher. You can always contribute back to his project via pull requests if you want to see those things. Fang is my old name, btw. I changed it to Spirited a long time ago, but it still gets referenced here and there. This is the original project Canyon was forked from: https://gitlab.com/spirited/comet

Gonna copy what I said on epvp here, but this seems Interesting - looks like you've done quite a lot of work on your own here. Sorry to hear your server has been struggling with player retention, but hopefully you get some of that back by advertising. Honestly, looks like you have a lot of potential. I hope you continue to work on this. On the topic of AI, I'm actually really happy to see that you haven't leaned super heavily into it. Like, your website descriptions are genuine and not generated, and the same with all your patch notes. That's really refreshing to see. I'm personally not for generative AI as a replacement for talent, but maybe you can consider hiring voice acting for key lines / phrases from super cheap actors in the future? I know a few very talented friends who could possibly do voice acting for a super low cost. Anyways, gripes on AI aside, good luck with your server.

The message is called MsgFuse. I can't remember if it appears in the Soul project or not, but I've seen some private servers repurpose it. Like in Apex Conquer where you could dump a ton of meteors into that interface through scrolls or loose items, and have it run through them all to attempt to socket an item also included in the interface.

I'm currently working on the replacement wiki, which I know is taking a while, but I'll be sure to add more documentation about that message. You should be able to do the same thing on the client side. An input XORed twice by the same number results in the original input again.

Oof, yeah. That would be great to have. Unfortunately, I don't have that either.

I'm going to go off the assumptions that I heard previously about the patch, but I'm interested about when they added potency. I'll try to start up a client soon and verify your findings. If someone else can verify that before me, then I'll go and fix it up. I might not be able to get to it this week since I'll be traveling.