[Client Edit] 3Deffects for garments

[rabbitdev]

hey!

I was wondering if how can I change the position of this effect? I wanted to push it up a little bit to the model's back.. kind of a wing.

I found these variables in 3DEffect.ini file OffsetX, OffsetY, OffsetZ.. changed that but still not working.. im in 5165 client, is there another file should I look for in order to achieve my goal?

https://imgur.com/a/sVmh9Td

[Spirited]

Just for context, is this an effect you're importing from a higher version of the client? And which message / packet are you using to send this right now? There're a few message types for sending effects, so it could be we just need to switch out the message type you're using.

[Konichu]

I tried to add wings as effects once in a lower version too, but the offsets just dont work and idk why.

[rabbitdev]

@Spirited like @Konichu said, I just use the wings effect in lower version. and yeah offset doesnt work. I tried experimenting something, I copy one of the existing effect (the effect is placed above the character's head), renamed it and tested it, it's showing at the bottom. I wonder why it's showing at the bottom? I just completely copy the effect and just renamed it in 3DEffect file. Maybe there's another file needs to update to make the offset work?

[Spirited]

@Spirited like @Konichu said, I just use the wings effect in lower version. and yeah offset doesnt work. I tried experimenting something, I copy one of the existing effect (the effect is placed above the character's head), renamed it and tested it, it's showing at the bottom. I wonder why it's showing at the bottom? I just completely copy the effect and just renamed it in 3DEffect file. Maybe there's another file needs to update to make the offset work?

Just so I understand, is the effect completely client sided? Or are you sending a packet / message from the server to display this when they spawn in? Is it a status on the character, or an effect you manually send?

[rabbitdev]

@Spirited like @Konichu said, I just use the wings effect in lower version. and yeah offset doesnt work. I tried experimenting something, I copy one of the existing effect (the effect is placed above the character's head), renamed it and tested it, it's showing at the bottom. I wonder why it's showing at the bottom? I just completely copy the effect and just renamed it in 3DEffect file. Maybe there's another file needs to update to make the offset work?

Just so I understand, is the effect completely client sided? Or are you sending a packet / message from the server to display this when they spawn in? Is it a status on the character, or an effect you manually send?

aah.. yeah just client-side of the effect.. i wanted add it in garments like other effects I did

[Munsie]

At some point TQ switched from storing a lot of data in .ini files to .dbc files nested inside of .wdb files. You'll notice in 5165 you have a "c3.wdb" file in your /ini/ folder. The new 3DEffect.dbc is in there, and that's the file the client is actually using to load effects. Any changes you make to 3DEffect.ini will be ignored.

CptSky has a tool for unpacking wdb files.

There are a number of tools for converting the wdb files to ini and back again. Unfortunately, none of them (in my experience) worked for 3DEffect specifically-- At least going from 3DEffect.ini back into 3DEffect.dbc. You can find some details about the EFFE file format here. I ended up writing my own janky little utility for converting them, and if it weren't so user-unfriendly I'd consider sharing it.

That said, even if you obtain the ability to edit 3DEffect.dbc, I offer no guarantees that the offset values will do anything-- Sometimes TQ just has fields in their files that don't do anything (because it's all hard-coded in the client, or part of the .c3 animation file, etc).

[rabbitdev]

At some point TQ switched from storing a lot of data in .ini files to .dbc files nested inside of .wdb files. You'll notice in 5165 you have a "c3.wdb" file in your /ini/ folder. The new 3DEffect.dbc is in there, and that's the file the client is actually using to load effects. Any changes you make to 3DEffect.ini will be ignored.

CptSky has a tool for unpacking wdb files.

There are a number of tools for converting the wdb files to ini and back again. Unfortunately, none of them (in my experience) worked for 3DEffect specifically-- At least going from 3DEffect.ini back into 3DEffect.dbc. You can find some details about the EFFE file format here. I ended up writing my own janky little utility for converting them, and if it weren't so user-unfriendly I'd consider sharing it.

That said, even if you obtain the ability to edit 3DEffect.dbc, I offer no guarantees that the offset values will do anything-- Sometimes TQ just has fields in their files that don't do anything (because it's all hard-coded in the client, or part of the .c3 animation file, etc).

Thanks for this!

[Darach]

in version you are using it cannot be as it is, but there another solution to link the effect of wing with the garment id it should work fine and adjustable.